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Post by celine on Feb 13, 2020 11:39:52 GMT -5
Donald Marshall 21 January 2020 First case of Chinese corona virus in the U.S.A shows up in Washington State. 😐 Bill Celli .....Where do I get my shot? Terri Campbell.... Bill Celli Really? That shot will probably kill you! Oriana Spratt.... Don't be stupid. Bill Celli....... I was obviously kidding. Gezz haha lmao hello Lea Turner.... Funny that, got one in Australia too.. Ken Chambers........... Pretty darn Suspiciously quick Frank Lee.... Contagion (2011) Official Exclusive 1080p HD Trailer Kathryn Watson........... Maybe we should limit anymore people coming into our country for a while? Stephanie Coronado .......It only spreads animal to human tho.... Dunja Dehm ........look up the patent-this is sars 2.0-don´t feed into the panic, that´s their goal!!!! Adair Sheppard.... Read more: donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/80/messages-donald-facebook-friends?page=184#ixzz6DqwkNpeS
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Post by celine on Feb 13, 2020 12:03:46 GMT -5
Donald Marshall 25 January 2020 Morning all, hopefully this Coronavirus is cleaned up soon. It has certainly helped the Chinese Government control protesters more with an official state of emergency and mandatory curfews. www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html?fbclid=IwAR1-WGj9XTXCAAq0m0ii2LkAkUYfgRgCYA9XDa8mkQwdutspOksZ_E-MYccNYTIMES.COM Coronavirus Live Updates: China Reports More Deaths as U.S. Orders Evacuation The authorities reported 15 new deaths in Wuhan, including a medical professional in his 60s. Luigi Sword..... Biological warfare, population control . U.S may see some kind of outbreak as well in the future Oriana Spratt.............. Interesting that Wuhan was where China rolled out 5G last year. FB wouldn't let me post an news bit about that, also suspicious. Jon Cusan ...........Patented virus. Hmmm Melanie Kalaene ..............In Wuhan stand a level 4 biolocical Labor..coherence .Corona ist patented by Bill and Melina Gates Fond .... Bronny Dolphin ............We are in phase 4 of the who pandemic chart, about to enter phase 5. With this Coronavirus incubation period being anywhere up to 9-14 days before people present ill, I strongly believe ‘they’ planned this all along and waiting till more infected sprea…See more Jonah Ainsworth..... Ken Chambers..... Bio Warfare and an election coming up ... what a funky combination Zorka Koso ... patents.justia.com/patent/10130701... US Patent for Coronavirus Patent (Patent # 10,130,701 issued November 20, 2018) - Justia Patents Search Oriana Spratt ..........Bioweapons lab in Wuhan: kotaku.com/chinese-resident-evil-fans-think-this... Chinese Resident Evil Fans Think This Biotech Company's Logo Looks Familiar Debbie Hodgkinson ........ Compilation of LEΑKS from Wuhαn. What's REALLY happening w/ Coronavirus?? Bronny Dolphin........ www.cnet.com/.../coronavirus-how-to-track-its.../Coronavirus: How to track its spread across Asia, the US and Europe Link to fb post....... Read more: donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/80/messages-donald-facebook-friends?page=184#ixzz6Dr21Pio4
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Post by bfoster on Mar 21, 2020 14:11:16 GMT -5
Economy, War and Viruses
In 2008, the economy crashed, but was quite a big crash. Technically we should have been having a rather difficult time. But not only did we not really have a difficult time (relatively speaking, maybe alot of people lost their jobs) , otherwise it was barely noticable except on TV, retaurants remained full the whole time. But everthing really did crash quite hard, while what 'saved' the system was holding it up like on life support from then-on. Like 0% interest rates while constantly printing (typing-in) rediculous amounts. In the US, interest rates only slightly came back up a few points for a while before until just now going back at 0, and also now with much more printed money handouts to big corps.
Representatives have been touting it as 'recovery', but it was all really just constantly printing lots and lots of money, withtout really actually 'fixing' anything. I also heard most oil producers has since started trading with anything else than American money? but I didn't verify that. Also, oil itself has only become harder and harder/more costly to find, extract, and or process, while demand has only been skyrocketing.
People talk about 'environmentalists', but nobody talks about 'philanthropists'. From maybe around mid-1700's on, or from whenever entire countries started owing entire national debts to the same bankers, or from the point when money itself (whatever can be commonly recognized as exchangeable for goods/services) became exclusively brought into existence as temporary loans (to be payed back), being when any industrialized nation (governments) essentially became like tools for making -war games- between each other, with maybe not all, but ALOT of entire situations or triggring events being either staged or provoked.
For banks, nothing is more profitable than war. Any involved nation will borrow as much as can be borrowed, and will dump everything into that (super expensive war machinery/infrastructure...) Otherwise it's not just countries (governments) that owe everything to bankers, ALL money is OWED, and all already pre-owNed from it's very inception.('currency' of arbitrarily adjustable value relative to other currencies and with alot of strings attached).
Governments typically have very little to do with the people beyond very nice words, or any subsidies... or support which is definately an exchange. They're suppose to be representing people, but they are entirely seperate things. Democracies are sort of a bit like jokes, every decision should be voted upon, or not just voting for the next person for the next 4 years, (voting for one of few pre-selected persons to the right or to the left, same difference, or for whoever you think would win) and big Lobbies is how bigger changes happens most anyways.
There is also alot of revolving doors between corporations (all about themselves and money) and governments (also often all about themselves money) , sometimes they ARE each other, and any big war mostly have nothing to do with people either fighting them (remotely by pressing buttons), or otherwise getting affected by them, all wars are faught for few groups at the top. And the higher you go up heirachies, the more corrupt people tend to be. (power being naturally very corrupting by default)
Otherwise, how much money do you have on you? Because while banks hold most of everyone's money, it's the banks money until you withdraw it. Do you think they would let all that money just sit there in accounts? All money in bank accounts is invested and used, or used as collateral until withdrawn, only what is withdrawn overall on average (with some wiggle-room) is actually available, and in the event of a crash, all or most money goes back to the source ( then becoming inaccessible, it was never anyone's money to begin with )
So in a sense, crashes can be like payback time of all loaned money (all money) while the world economic system is made to be like temporary bubbles on top of bubbles, on top of bigger less temporary bubbles.
When bubbles pop, if the moment and aproximate scope of popping is known before hand, not only do very-very-big investors not loose money, but is like the exact opposite, all value does not dissapear or vanish, it is merely all indirectly transferred, the value of money being all relative to how much money is had in general. Crashes can be the biggest opportunities for orgs beyond a certain size.
And for such people, if a crash happens naturally (unexpectedly), then it's considered like a wasted crash, AND they also loose tons of money just like everyone else.
They were heavily promoting and very carelessly handing-out loans for houses, and it's quite easy to sell free money. What is the point of such breakneck behaviour? Banks wanted the actual houses with little concern about money. (wanted what actually had value beyond paper.) and wanted the resulting expected massive bailouts ( also like right now) once everything would obviously inevitably just collapse.
9/11 Weather or not the towers were brought down by either : - regular fires melting solid steel and collapsing all floors with gravity, - OR whatever could have completely pulverized (except anything metal) entire non burning or non-meling bottom sections -very- evenly, and practically as fast as gravity , going through even the extremely sturdy lower floors MUCH MORE than capable of supporting entire upper sections, with nothing pushing down on them other than loose flying metal beams and pulverized concrete dust, all the way down to sub-sub levels.
Whichever it was, that event was the basis and justification of all of what they wanted to do, all of what they did after that, and the reason for funneling astronomical amounts of funds to already rediculously funded military forces, going where most of the oil happens to be -- much more than we were already there, extracting oil, training/arming more local 'security forces', making showy strikes and real destruction... and was the basis of heavily funding and ramping-up anything security/control/surveillance related in homelands. ( the less freedoms general people have, the more freedom people of power have to do whatever, while needing proprtionately less 'public approval' )
This, while talking and talking and talking about it (terror) to no end in news channels, coverage was omnipresent and all super scary while driving point, after points across. Everyone's FEAR, can be like a handle that everone has, they can't just (outwardly) do stuff as they please, (unless more freedoms eventually get taken away) people have to approve, and that's how you MAKE approval. Even a super long time after the Boston bombings (another terror reminder), it was still everywhere on TV, *constantly covering micro-details, at least in the US.
In other media, 'terrorists with causes' is more or less directly in almost every major action movie. (movies that we remember alot, especially the good ones) Also in movies, the 'good guys', resitance fighters, or 'heros' are themselves practically always really superviolent and vengeful, or like shouting "wooohoo!!!" or joking while fireing weapons.
Whereas in real life, -anyone- doing anything that might hurt anyone, even towards violent agents or even for 'good causes', can only proportionaltely exacerbate however bad situations may already be, ( there are always other ways ) and becomes justification for yet even more violence and escelations, and provides yet more justification for yet tighter controls, and is the very point of making government sponsored terror. ( search 'Gadio' being an early example of that )
Like how hooded policemen dressed in black breaking windows with rocks in protests (more common than you think) can justify more police presence and discredit whatever cause the protest may be about. Any violence can be like food for organisations that are all about force or 'keeping the peace', if there isn't enough, they will simulate or stimulate it themselves.
Alternative sources of what's going on. There are some good sources out there. But for ''alternative news'' I worry about one of the biggest source. I personally highly suspect the 'leader' at the forefront of 'alternative news' to also be a tool positionned as 'a leader' (Alex Jones) He is crazy, loud, and really a total jerk. He -constantly- mixes sensitive things that may be possibly true, with loads of totally over-the-top things that are either made-up altogether, or greatly exaggerated, and he is also a guy all about guns, with the sensitivity of a rock, kinda like Trump actually. Also his gun obsession can then make people that dont even care for this extreme channel, but have certain non-mainstream views, or who don't necessarily buy everything that TV says, which then become more easily associated with potentially violent behavior, justifying monitoring all digitally sorted/categorized lists of people, merely for being critical about situations.
Alot of documentaries have been either produced by his channel, or authored by himself, mostly presented like super-dramatic WWF wrestling documentaries. Then, any fact that might actually be real, becomes one thing among a TON of easily dismissable obvious non-sense, while alot of people are able to believe anything or everything.
But any of the few things that might be true (among the loads of crap.. discoverable by other means than watching/litening to his crap) , aren't necessarily even really hidden, but acceptance is prevented merely by the fact the few things (that may possibly be rather crazy) can just be so hard to seriously consider or take-in (hidden in plain sight), only because they can be pretty crazy indeed.
Otherwise for the virus, what is disturbing me right now is that : since everything went into emergency-mode almost a week ago now, any people I see around are being super careful and scared, and i'm sure it's been the same across Europe, any waiting line I saw were super spread-out, people haven't been going out much if at-all, with everything pretty-much closed except supermarkets, pharmacies... While on TV it sounds like everyone are licking hand rails. But despite everyone's vigilance, all countries exponential curves pitch barely at-all changed and are just as steep everywhere, -- except China who quickly executed super drastic measures (as an ultra-autoritarian regime would do). Maybe it's just a time delay, or increased detection rates offsetting (exactly) the often otherwise almost perfectly smooth new cases curves.
But what find scary (apart from the virus, and keep in mind that this is all thoretical...) I fear that all this may have been a way or a first step, or practice, for everywhere to become a more a bit like China, or for societies worlwide to become progressively more autoritarian (like a new normal), or for everyone to become yet further controlled, ... to date, actually way more than when 9/11 happened. I fear that the 2 weeks will become 3-4-... weeks, or that it will relax, while always being in the background as constant lingering threats, at any of which point I think we should all be asking some serious questions about what is presented to us. (if not seriously asking questions right now).
Just entering a store there is a questionnaire about where youv'e been, if you been in contact with others.. I can't imagine how it would be like in more serious questionnaires. All I'm saying is this better be 'temporary'. Also, normally when something is not right, even well beyond possibly whitewashed news, the first thing you see is people gathering outside, (well before news). But now, any of that became like dangerous / illegal.
These developments are perhaps in face of the actual delayed effects of the big crash that happened 12 years ago, which could/would be further compounded by extra downturns.. new bailouts.. etc... And now in this yet again precipitated economic downturn... who is going to bail out the system. China? All over right-wing american news is there repeated, constant, and aggressive anti-China propagada. ''China witholding manufactured goods or drugs to the US... '' or China this... China that... don't get me wrong, the totalitarian Chinese government can be far from being angels, but in general does it feel like things, or that people are being setup for war (again).
As of yet, I personally don't know anyone that knows anyone that got infected, seems almost like a lottery (with the same sort of odds actually at least for now) , while I seen reports of known public figures that got-it (what are the odds). Who knows what the real numbers are, the virus itself is probably real (or perhaps engineered?) but there seems to be alot of exaggeration, and fear mongering is dialed-up to 11 all over the news, all mixed with contradictory 'keep calm' messages.
The swine flu, despite that it had a longer run-up time, it got a 250,000 death toll in less than a year, and for a number of months was the curve just as steep as Corona, while there was nowhere near as much measures, if even at-all, I don't even remember swine flu apart for the name. Now it's as if people were dying everywhere in the streets, in regards to measures... media...
Is there a way to verify/confirm official numbers? Also, why do we need millions of gas masks? At first I thought respirators were to help patients breathe more easily, but their basically gas masks. Are masks reusable by the same person? ''We need more respirators!'' is the message. While only people dealing with patients could need such things, or patients themselves being still in the thousands at most per state/province/region for now, while everything should be fine if you're careful & don't do silly things, and even after the global quarantine, will people remain careful.
Also the first week were they handing-out 'aid money' (by the billions, or trillions?) mostly to big corporations and also to people, but shouldn't that be reserved for if things would become more difficult? that's super wierd.
Also, I remember a speech by Bill Gates about overpopulation problems, and possible measures to reduce populations, while talking about vaccines in the same speech. And I also remember a speech by Rockefeller a long time ago about world population relative to world resources (almost like Thanos), and it was super creepy. So any of this, better not be about any of that.
I also worry about police if things would become more difficult. Alot (most) of them are good people. But some mentalities are deceminated as standard ways of doing things. They should be trained to not have egos, and to really only use use force as a very last measure. But it's not like that at all, excessive (non-necessary) brutality happens very very often. But you can't blame them, it's actually like part of protocols (I'm sure the fear factor is part of that). A long time ago, I've seen troops of policemen charge a bunch of protesters with sticks or whatever else, pinning them to the floor with their knees... they were not at-all expecting such a reaction, they were just like walking around picketting with their sign-posts, maybe they weren't suppose to be there, but wow!
Also, FEMA is alot of doctors and nurses, but is also like a military (and militirized) division with large proportions of population control personel (basically like lots of police)
Nevertheless, we should all remain vigilant. About the virus, but also remaining very vigilant, analitical, objective, alert, and critical about anything that may not necessarily seem right to you, like do detecitve work here and there during your home vacation, take everything television says with a ginormous grain of salt while following guidelines that make sense, while seeking out impressions of others( often more valueable info than up-to the minute news), with a priority of keeping your active common sense.
Depending on how things turn-out, If there is to be some sort of revolution, it should be an ENTIRELY pacific revolution (merely by not falling for manipulation/fear tactics) , if not, it would be better if the whole planet became like China (rather than anything that might come out of a revolution which would not be pacific, at least on the part of people).
In any event, maybe it's just my mind running wild while getting eerie flashbacks of 9/11 news narratives, while noticing ALOT of parrallels in the current news, and I hope that it's indeed just a randomly occuring virus that happens to be particularly dangerous, and that things will just settle again.
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Post by bfoster on Mar 25, 2020 17:15:22 GMT -5
Yes.. Please spread it around...
Things are happening super fast...
I'm super scared of the test swabs
Apart for the MILLIONS of gas masks.
Or THOUSANDS of beds for what is essentially to date described as being like the common cold.
And why are the Qtips special swabs with stuff on it, if it's to GET a sample, rather that to APPLY ... samples.
In these incredible circumstances, even the TESTS became like a big risk, and I wouldn't take uncessary risks,
if I would get a regular cold, I would do as if I was infected, and would go through it like a regular cold.
---> And if I were you, I WOULDN'T GET A TEST
Even if you don't have a cold at all... Stay home for like a month, don't go out even for groceries, this way it would be SURE that you didn't get or give anything to/from anyone.
not even because of the virus which is to date is like a cold ( if not BEING the common cold, renamed after a beer brand ) but just to be yet more confident that you dont need any testing.
if you've been home for 2 weeks or more without contact, you dont need any test, because it's then basically -impossible- that you got, or transmitted anything,
If you get tested anyways, rub a TON of any sort of alcohol where the tipped Qtip was applied,
If you get tested anyways, rub a TON of any sort of alcohol where the tipped Qtip was applied,
and/or litterally snif vodka not just the fumes but the liquid, it would be the worst experience of your life, but it would be to reduce the risk of really needing all the beds that they ordered.
Because the gigantic mass of equiment and the thousands of beds, is not in preparation for what to date, just happens to be exactly like regular flu.
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Post by Biochemist on Mar 27, 2020 21:48:42 GMT -5
A virus is a type of protein and foreign to the body and the body intelligence has ways and means to purge or flush out damaged cells, and foreign debris, such as proteins especially. The body initiates autophagy and autolysis to do this, and autophagy is an enzymatic inflammatory process, much like an incinerator. The smart body sequesters and then shoots in an enzyme which breaks down in water, gases, and particles and get either flushed out through the kidneys and or put to use in the body (i.e., metabolic water).
People unfortunately are indoctrinated to react badly to fevers and chills and other de-toxing phenomenon, and seek to suppress the body's clean-up efforts, and the medical industry, allied with pharmaceutical industry exploit this ignorance.
People, either out of ignorance or greed tend to work against the body and not with it; however give the body intelligence a chance to focus on purging and self-healing and restoration of full health and vitality and it will not disappoint you. It is really very very simple from the body's perspective.
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