how do you know if you're being taken to the cloning center?

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After watching Phil Chuppa's videos describing MK Ultra dreams where he is actually being taken to the cloning center I feel that this may have been happening to me.

Last night I had a dreeam where I went in a train underground into a weird city. I was with a famous celebrity and when the train stopped to let us out I couldn't see where she was. When I went into city there were people in plain clothes with big guns acting as security. It kind of looked like a mall inside. I went near what looked like a bathroom to try to text the celebrity. I had a really old nokia phone because for some reason I knew that was the only thing that would work down there. When I went to text her the guards tried to get me out. As I was leaving I looked near the window and I saw the celebrity sitting next to some guards propping her up. She fell over and her head fell off but there was no blood. Then when I went out side there were a bunch of headless dogs that looked like my dogs but when I looked closer the heads were fakes. I said to myself "they are trying to trick me" and immediately woke up.

The night before this dream I had a dream I was taken to a fancy dinner. It looked like it was for the president. I felt uncomfortable and these big men noticed. They said they were going to take me to see the fight. (I like boxing a lot) Usually I would be excited but I was very nervous around them. I left the dinner hall and I was right in a stadium hall way. I could see the seating through the doors. I starting freaking out and screaming NO and then I woke up.

I don't know if I have been reading too much about this or if I am really experiencing these MK ultra simulated dreams. These dreams are not like any dreams I have ever had before. When I start feeling myself going to sleep (lucid dream state) I swear I can hear voices trying to get me to go to sleep. It's like they're calling me into my dream. I am not on any type of drug and I don't have a history of mental illness.

I also had odd memories as a child of being molested but I always use to explain it as happening in my dreams. I don't remember it actually happening / cant tell. I do have a few members of my family who were famous years ago and invovled with powerful people. I dont know if that matters or not.

If anyone has any ideas about this please help.

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Thank you for responding. It's weird because I feel that when I try to fight my sleep I get that sensation of being pulled and feeling like people are around me. And similar to you after my dream about seeing the celebrities head fall off I read something on the proboards about a bomb being teleported into the center.

I read on Astra7ight's blog that it is helpful to try to ask yourself if you are in the cloning center throughout the day so that you do the same in your "dreams". He also said it is helpful to jump up and if you remain suspending you will know you are at cloning.

Last night I wanted to use this information but when I slept I was in a forest with a group of people my age (20s) and there was a military like person teaching us something in the woods. There were a lot of steps to whatever we were doing and I noticed again the militant person was focused on me. I heard him whisper to someone else that he "had to keep my mind busy" I guess so I wouldn't try to use any of Astra7ight's strategies. As soon as I heard this I stood up woke up.

[jesusisking777]

They like to give out..a card, a chip/message..

Dream..??

If you was at the cloneing center it would have been the stadium.. What they may have tried to do is take you somewhere else//either to test you/suitability, or interigate you.

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what do you mean by give out a card/chip/message? you mean when i'm awake?

I left this out of my original posts but in the dream they were teaching me to make a fire in a certain way in the woods and i dont know anything about that type of stuff then when i looked up the method it was real. (notches cut in the wood and rubbing a stick on the notch)

[jesusisking777]

In the Dream they give you.. Don't Ask me why, but they like to hand you a certain calling card of theirs..so you can look it over.

Maybe they want you to accept it and look it up later..as you know everything is choice,and you have free will to decide, if you accept it.


They will interject into your dream state with vision of them.. when you are asleep and dreaming, but you are aware of what is going on..and you will recall/remember it.

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thanks.

I havent been able to remember any dreams lately. thanks for the info.

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if anyone sees this can you let me know if you have experienced anything similar?

Last night I had a dream that I think was an MK ultra visual simulation because:
-- I could feel force/touch within the dream
-- Time seemed to move at a normal pace
-- It started in my room and the room seemed to expand (others explain a similar experience)
-- I felt like someone was watching me in the dream and commenting on what I was doing like a movie set
-- I was able to wake up and continue the dream exactly where I left off multiple times, 4 times total

Each time I woke up I felt like I was being challenged. At one point I was crawling up a wall. When I woke up my lower back and legs hurt. It almost seemed like me waking up represented me reaching a checkpoint. I felt like my mind was being studied. In the previous dreams I described on this thread I had this same feeling of being studied and tested.

In one part of the dream someone showed me a tiny creature that looked like an alien mixed with a seahorse (possibly a vril) and they said it was my baby and it died. I started screaming but then I realized that wasnt possible and I said that's not my baby and everything around me switched when I said that. When I say switched I mean I could see my surroundings dissolve and transform into something new. Usually in a dream I kind of randomly jump from place to place.

It's just so weird to describe because it really feels like i'm on a movie set. I can feel people around me watching me intently. analyzing me and gauging my reaction to everything. It's the most bizarre thing. And when I woke up I barely felt rested because I was consciously moving and making decisions in my "dream".

[Murdock]

Jun 5, 2016 11:03:38 GMT -5 link said:

I started screaming but then I realized that wasnt possible and I said that's not my baby and everything around me switched when I said that. When I say switched I mean I could see my surroundings dissolve and transform into something new. Usually in a dream I kind of randomly jump from place to place.

That sounds like possibly some Virtual Reality tech at work, of course way more advanced than what's currently available/made known to the public.

I'm sorry you had such an unpleasant night, hopefully tonite will be better!  SaveSave

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Jun 5, 2016 11:40:00 GMT -5 Murdock said:

Jun 5, 2016 11:03:38 GMT -5 link said:

I started screaming but then I realized that wasnt possible and I said that's not my baby and everything around me switched when I said that. When I say switched I mean I could see my surroundings dissolve and transform into something new. Usually in a dream I kind of randomly jump from place to place.

That sounds like possibly some Virtual Reality tech at work, of course way more advanced than what's currently available/made known to the public.

I'm sorry you had such an unpleasant night, hopefully tonite will be better!  SaveSave

Thanks I appreciate that.

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Jun 5, 2016 15:16:01 GMT -5 @tc said:

Link,

So sorry to hear that, that is terrible.  

Did you happen to read Violet123's post?  She also mentioned that she and another woman were told at the cloning center that they had alien babies, and they held them.  

donaldmarshall.proboards.com/post/17092/thread

And the tiny creature that looked like an alien mixed with a seahorse, have you seen the "What is this?" thread?  I think it's on page 4 or 5 of the threads list.

Thank you for the info. The baby alien looked a bit like that but with a larger body with spikes on it. I think that they try to trick girls into sympathizing with the vril by saying that. In the dream I was sad that the baby vril died because I thought it was my baby but once I realized what it was and that I was in a "dream" that's what made everything change.

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If i'm not just dreaming and this is really a visual simulation I can say what helps me stay in control is to focus on things going on in the background.

so if anyone else is experiencing something similar just try to look at things going on in the background. Or try to focus on the details of something you see. Everytime I do that I start thinking about the info I know about the cloning center and it makes things around me change.




also if people are really reading this at cc just know im a fighter. neverranneverwill.

[cheeta64]

Hi

[cheeta64]

Hi I am wondering if anyone including Donald can give me info on something strange happening to me. For the last many many months Ive had a metallic clicking sound in my right ear along with some static ringing in both ears. I've been to the cloning center many times and remember having brain surgery and actually feeling the scab on the back of my head after the procedure just like in the movie the Matrix. I remember wondering why did I have brain surgery....it was in a dream like state but knew I was at cloning. The clicking in My ear can get very noticeable. First thing I thought was it is a control device of some sort. Any ideas?

[sundaynoise]

Jun 6, 2016 22:13:23 GMT -5 cheeta64 said:

Hi I am wondering if anyone including Donald can give me info on something strange happening to me. For the last many many months Ive had a metallic clicking sound in my right ear along with some static ringing in both ears. I've been to the cloning center many times and remember having brain surgery and actually feeling the scab on the back of my head after the procedure just like in the movie the Matrix. I remember wondering why did I have brain surgery....it was in a dream like state but knew I was at cloning. The clicking in My ear can get very noticeable. First thing I thought was it is a control device of some sort. Any ideas?

I also experience the ear clicks/beeps/tones constantly. They seem to occur mostly in my left ear, sometimes both, and there is generally a feeling of deja vu involved. I have read that this can mean many things from straight biological tinnitus (ear ringing) all the way to implants. There is a theory that when you have been targeted (whether for cloning, for research, for monitoring, etc) you will be implanted with a device somewhere behind your eye or in your inner ear and that when you hear those tones you are literally hearing the frequency, like a hearing-aid gone haywire. The implants can be used for many things -from extremes like mind control to just basic monitoring..like a wild animal who has been tagged. We are just zoo animals to them after all..
However, if you have memories of the cloning centers, it may definitely be related to that. How long have you had memories of attending cloning? What happened to you there? Did you speak to anyone while you were there?

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Jun 6, 2016 22:13:23 GMT -5 cheeta64 said:

Hi I am wondering if anyone including Donald can give me info on something strange happening to me. For the last many many months Ive had a metallic clicking sound in my right ear along with some static ringing in both ears. I've been to the cloning center many times and remember having brain surgery and actually feeling the scab on the back of my head after the procedure just like in the movie the Matrix. I remember wondering why did I have brain surgery....it was in a dream like state but knew I was at cloning. The clicking in My ear can get very noticeable. First thing I thought was it is a control device of some sort. Any ideas?

hey cheeta.

I experience ringing too and a weird sensation near my left ear. I was told that I have a disorder that affect my brains "ability to hear". the part of the brain responsible for interpreting sound is messed up. once I found out about Donald and everything i started to think maybe theres something in my head. (sounds crazy). after doing some research I found out the disorder may be related to the alpha waves in my brain.

the waves in your brain have frequency and if there is a device in your head maybe you're hearing a variation of frequencies or your brain is simulating frequencies. i don't know if you've ever heard of binaural beats. it's different frequencies that are suppose to affect your brain. one frequency tone is suppose to make you less angry, another is suppose to make you focus more etc. maybe the chips they use on people can alter the frequencies within the brain to control emotions and thoughts. i'm not sure what the clicking could be.