Rem-Phase Cloning...brief explanation

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Phil Chuppa

taken from....
donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/75/donalds-original-letter-public

re REM driven cloning....... once asleep for 1 anna half to 2 hours your brain enters R.E.M sleep phase, (rapid eye movement) your eyes dart around under the lids, Somehow when your in this state they can transfer your consciousness into a clone at the cloning center when you start REM... but when you wake up your clone drops limp,... you usually dream during rem sleep but no dreams if your a rem driven mark II clone... you give up the ability to dream or have nightmares, and you just walk around out there,... open your eyes and say oh yeah Im here again,... its clear as day,... little fuzzy and dumber if your memory suppressed... but clear as a bell if youve been "awakened" as they call it... (allowed to retain the memories).

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Phillis WeArechanged Georgia............... Are you an abductee, Donald?



Donald Marshall................ Ha could say that... Victim of rem mark 2 driven cloning... Exposin it though... It's how the Illuminati leadership communicate in secret... And where they do their scummy filthy stuff, at the cloning center. Mark 2 R.E.M driven cloning is a consciousness transfer into a clone while the original person is in r.e.m (rapid eye movement) stage of sleep... People that attend give up the ability to have dreams or nightmares and just open their clone eyes there when they go to sleep and walk around talking, I dont know how the transfer is done or I'd know how to block it,... When the original wakes up the clone out there drops limp, thats how it works pretty much, the clones stay seated most of the time cuz unexpectedly waking in real has made clones drop and break elbows and skulls off the floor at the cloning center. Fully formed duplicate bodies,... (duplication cloning) where as grown from a baby clones is replication cloning, which they also do,... The bodies are grown in 5 months from a tissue or blood sample, they make multiples of the same person each time in case of deformities... Grown in big glass tubes full of water. I tell all about them. They call the different advancements of the duplicate clones "Marks". There are 4 kinds... The mark 3 and 4 just stay on all the time and are not rem driven... Mark 1's are primitive and arent used anymore. They clone children and use them for meat for perverts to rape and tear apart for the entertainment of the rich famous and politically powerful. While leaving the kid memory suppressed about it... Still messes the real kid up though, being memory suppressed even... They get random symptoms of known syndromes depending on what is done to them as clones... I found out everything. R.e.m cloning was used for the idea to make the movie Avatar... It works pretty much just like that.



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question:. What about actually sleeping for real? So that means they get no sleep whatsoever, except for their real bodies that are sleeping. Know what I'm saying? Wouldn't people be tired from being up all night.. even if they are in a different body.


Donald Marshall:........... no... your real body still gets rest. Still counts as rem sleep. but they can make you a variety of messed up the next day, can even make you have an aneurysm or heart attack in your sleep if they mess you up in clone form enough. This is why me hearts messed now. They could drop me right now if they really wanted to.


Question..........Donald is it similar to the movie Avatar, where the guy gets into a cryogenic type of tube, goes to sleep, and his brain is then wired to a clone of the indigenous alien of the planet they're visiting, so he is able to walk amongst the tribal aliens while his anchor body is in the ship?


Donald Marshall..........." exactly.... they made this movie....Inception too.....many....trying to give a veiled warning to the world for when I filled in the blanks.

Question:........if someone is cloned and someone kills their clone does the real them die as well?


Donald Marshall:....." No, I would have been dead a long time ago if that were the case, as a clone if the clone of you dies, everything goes black, then you either open your eyes in another clone unhurt or you wake up.



Question:.........Can you end up in a completely different persons clone or do they usually make more than one clone of you



Donald Marshall;..........they CAN put you in someone elses clones but it makes you confused and dumber and if the person is too far from your type you just go psychotic like caveman...



Question:.............Now when your talking about type do you mean blood type?




Donald Marshal......."..l no dont have to be same bloodtype, type of person, I'm not sure how that works, but your type usually looks somewhat like you or a relative of you, I dunno. still makes you more confused and dumber in diff body though."


Question:..........did they ever tell you who invented the rem cloning?



Donald Marshall:.." russians............ government scientists. in the beginning they had organic robotiods, they were primitive Mark 1 clones... first kind... they look like a messed up you,... look different wierd in the face... some of the nazi bodies in the nuremberg case had theyre bodies switched out for organic robotiods to fake their deaths...the dead bodies that were shown of the leadership were almost all mark 1 clones... they faked theyre deaths. theyre still living now kind of,... very evil, as they died naturally before consciousnesses could be recorded on hips good...now they live in mark 3 and 4 clones with a microchip in the brain with theyre really badly recorded mark 1 clone consciousness recorded, cant upgrade. Theyre very evil like that, worse than usual... also they put the chip into REAL peoples heads and bodysnatch them like that kinda like Vrill lizards do but with a chip...less side effects with a real persons body used and they dont need to replace a mark 3 or 4 clone... the clones degrade and need to be remade and chip reinstalled... but they look different each time slightly so they make 20 at a time and pick the most similar one. Some refuse to bodysnatch and just use clones. Russia started replacing people in us government. with China... still do. Russia China Britain and Germany. They still do...




Question:............Is the switch to deactivate the chipheads ........ the cloning centre or through computer?...........

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Donald Marshall:............ unknown about off switch, Ive seen them deactivate them tho, they just shut off. no pain or anything.



Question:..........who has access to this button?............



Donald Marshall............ mindcomputers company is one way,... they have back ups, but this mindcomputers company must be stopped.... they have a site on the net even. lol........ describing half of the stuff they can do. lol.




Question:...........Can someone please explain me what is this cloning technology etc without using difficult terms and names in a straight language!!!


Donald Marshall:............. a fully formed duplicate body of you, only able to run around in it while your in R.E.M sleep phase of sleep,... no dreams anymore no nightmares, just clone time.
 The duplicate kind of clone comes out the tube fully grown, same age as when you had the blood test or tissue sample.

Q).....................Donald, Is there such a thing as cloning ''misshaps'', type 1-2-3, if so are they kept in a larve state,


A)..........Donald Marshll:............Yeah .... they grow deformed sometimes.... Thats why they make 5-10 bodies of you at once, and just pick the best lookin Sometimes they can grow warped... They just throw those in a woodchipper like garbage disposal thing...



Donald Marshall:............... dunno about souls in clones,... i feel just like real life unless theyve drugged the clone with something... smack yer own face n all... then ya cry cuz ya know the evil hag has activated a clone of you while your in rem sleep stage then ya get mad lol.......... i feel like when a clone I have a soul.... same as in real.... same feeling. im like curious george bad,... i had to know everything,... i wondered about the soul thing too... so did they... they dont know what happens to your "consciousness" as they call it they can only preserve a flawed negative of you...they have lotsa theories.... all I know is i dont wanna go wherever they end up... or come back mark 3 or 4 clone for elizabeth to stab. mega death... the worst thing they say that can happen to a living thing...it keeps people from talkin.



Q)............. Do the people who `grow' the clones in the tubes be at the C Center during REM sleep time too? And Donald Marshall are there any `normal' people at these centres who are not cloned?

A).............Donald Marshall:............. there are a few reals there that run stuff... barely ever see them... they stay out of harms way... a clone can malfunction at any time and attack... erratic behavior sometimes... one track mind. Easily confused. they could shut down all clones there with the push of a button... but the people working the center in real body are drones... and are infinitly loyal to the Vrill cause. thats why theyre used to run stuff.




REM........

Donald Marshall............. radid eye movement. every human enters rem stage about an hour into sleeping. it needed or you die from sleep deprivation in 7 days. hallucinate after 4 days. after 7 u die.



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Phil Chuppa shared
this is a good introduction to the basics of Dons info. please share this.



donald-marshall.com/home.html
REM CLONING, PARASITED HUMAN HOSTS and CHIPHEADS
donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/75/donalds-original-letter-public

re REM driven cloning....... once asleep for 1 anna half to 2 hours your brain enters R.E.M sleep phase, (rapid eye movement) your eyes dart around under the lids, Somehow when your in this state they can transfer your consciousness into a clone at the cloning center when you start REM... but when you wake up your clone drops limp,... you usually dream during rem sleep but no dreams if your a rem driven mark II clone... you give up the ability to dream or have nightmares, and you just walk around out there,... open your eyes and say oh yeah Im here again,... its clear as day,... little fuzzy and dumber if your memory suppressed... but clear as a bell if youve been "awakened" as they call it... (allowed to retain the memories).

Read more: donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/30/types-clones-cloning-process?page=1#ixzz34sJBRsZ1




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Droning :
Droning occurs when a Vril injects its quill/proboscis into the human eye where the lizard parasite takes over the human host brain. It is terribly painful for the human being until the human consciousness dies and the vril parasite consciousness is in full control. All (or most) memory and ability of former human is retained & the lizard consciousness now mimicks the former human's behaviors. The former human is now a drone. These are the 'people' that are used by vril to infiltrate governments, religious, legal & financial systems, organizations and/or corporations. It is not uncommon for male or female drones to lose their hair at a younger age. Intelligence seems a little decreased-with a minimal capacity-if any, to understand sarcasm and/or dry humour. Offspring have increased risk of various birth abnormalities. Drones often seem incapable of empathy/sympathy and can quite often display psychotic behaviours. Drones enjoy perversion, sexual deviance and self gratification. The drone will seem to be an ill human until fully recovered from the parasitical infection which takes varying degrees of time, but is usually minimal. The eye that was droned with the proboscis will be affected and sometimes never fully recovers, leaving the affected eye to seem different from the other. Most drones appear completely normal and walk among us undetected.
Read more: donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/152/droning#ixzz34sJccu00
donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/191/characteristics-vril-lizards
Donald Marshall:....
if you get the rfid chip even in your arm it acts as a brain chip, theyve upgraded the technology, they can upload a dead consciousness into you and it only takes a short time for them to become coherant... but once the chip is shut down the original person comes back into control,... not vrill drones tho,.. its permanent and there is no coming back... gotta kill them off, original person if effectively brain dead
Read more: donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/114/reanimated-chipheads#ixzz34sLj6yL0
Photo: REM CLONING, PARASITED HUMAN HOSTS and CHIPHEADS
donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/75/donalds-original-letter-public
re REM driven cloning....... once asleep for 1 anna half to 2 hours your brain enters R.E.M sleep phase, (rapid eye movement) your eyes dart around under the lids, Somehow when your in this state they can transfer your consciousness into a clone at the cloning center when you start REM... but when you wake up your clone drops limp,... you usually dream during rem sleep but no dreams if your a rem driven mark II clone... you give up the ability to dream or have nightmares, and you just walk around out there,... open your eyes and say oh yeah Im here again,... its clear as day,... little fuzzy and dumber if your memory suppressed... but clear as a bell if youve been "awakened" as they call it... (allowed to retain the memories).
Read more: donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/30/types-clones-cloning-process?page=1#ixzz34sJBRsZ1
Droning occurs when a Vril injects its quill/proboscis into the human eye where the lizard parasite takes over the human host brain. It is terribly painful for the human being until the human consciousness dies and the vril parasite consciousness is in full control. All (or most) memory and ability of former human is retained & the lizard consciousness now mimicks the former human's behaviors. The former human is now a drone. These are the 'people' that are used by vril to infiltrate governments, religious, legal & financial systems, organizations and/or corporations. It is not uncommon for male or female drones to lose their hair at a younger age. Intelligence seems a little decreased-with a minimal capacity-if any, to understand sarcasm and/or dry humour. Offspring have increased risk of various birth abnormalities. Drones often seem incapable of empathy/sympathy and can quite often display psychotic behaviours. Drones enjoy perversion, sexual deviance and self gratification. The drone will seem to be an ill human until fully recovered from the parasitical infection which takes varying degrees of time, but is usually minimal. The eye that was droned with the proboscis will be affected and sometimes never fully recovers, leaving the affected eye to seem different from the other. Most drones appear completely normal and walk among us undetected.
Read more: donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/152/droning#ixzz34sJccu00
donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/191/characteristics-vril-lizards
Donald Marshall:....
if you get the rfid chip even in your arm it acts as a brain chip, theyve upgraded the technology, they can upload a dead consciousness into you and it only takes a short time for them to become coherant... but once the chip is shut down the original person comes back into control,... not vrill drones tho,.. its permanent and there is no coming back... gotta kill them off, original person if effectively brain dead
Read more: donaldmarshall.proboards.com/thread/114/reanimated-chipheads#ixzz34sLj6yL0

[madgrendel]

So are the celebrities and elite usually coming to these CCs in person, or are they usually there only as an REM clone or something like that?  When you say things like Miley Cyrus is torturing my clone, is it the Real Miley, or is it her simply an REM driven clone?  Sorry if you already answered this, I may have missed it.  I'm still trying to get caught up on everything as I just discovered this a couple days ago actually.

Thanks ^_^

Celine O'Carroll....Its only their clones that are there. The clones are kept there all the time on steel racks. They're unconscious most of the time and fed through tubes into the tummy...ie peg-feeds. When the real body at home enters rem-phase of sleep, a worker at the cloning centre can press a button and the consciousness of the person is transferred into their clone and it wakes up there....but because it is the person's consciousness that is there...'they' are in fact themselves....just inhabiting a different body. They are slightly less quick-thinking in a clone body though.

[Skeksi]

Did never believe the teleport thing, until I read that:

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150430124107.htm

Fuck... is it all true???

[Spots]

Think one of the best things about Donald's story is that it confirms the existence of a soul. Your consciousness isn't just so e biological process. And the people who play with souls obviously begin to lose meaning or value in theirs the more they manipulate.

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Donald Marshall I have a question my name is davante darden do you see my clone at the cloning station in my second question is when everybody dreams are there clones drugged when everybody dreaming that's all my question hope you answer my question Donald marshall

[cfoster517]

I apologize if this has been addressed. I'm new here, and not sure where to go. Anyways, does everyone have a clone there at the CC? Does everyone even have a clone and how does that work and how is that possible? I'm open to the fact, but just want some info there. Interesting because in my small city, I purchased two vehicles, and within a week I see another vehicle that looks just like mine (same vehicle, color and model) ... are they trying to clone me??? Or have they done so already?

I didn't know they could clone someone without operating... any insight appreciated. thx


Celine O'Carroll.....Don doesnt think they have clones of everybody but they do clone vast amounts of people.  Don't know the exact science behind the rem-cloning process but there are some links in some of the threads in this forum which give some idea of aspects of the tech...eg...consciousness-uploading etc.  

[omnimind]

May 4, 2015 4:41:57 GMT -5 Skeksi said:

Did never believe the teleport thing, until I read that:

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150430124107.htm

Fuck... is it all true???

That one is basically about closing your eyes and having a picture of you in the room digitally place you in different locations. Your brain creates the feeling/perception of teleportation.

The high tech uses zero-point field interactions and supercomputers to copy DNA, replicate entire physical, mental, and emotional energy structures in a 4 Dimensional composition, and can create the virtual illusion of an entire reality. Or physically teleport people and objects.

[omnimind]

May 26, 2015 11:08:56 GMT -5 Spots said:

Think one of the best things about Donald's story is that it confirms the existence of a soul. Your consciousness isn't just so e biological process. And the people who play with souls obviously begin to lose meaning or value in theirs the more they manipulate.

Yep, this is the amazing thing. Every bit of the harassment is evidence of very high tech and very high spiritual realms.

This is also a gift from Donald. Our power to know has been sparked by him. I've had my own experiences, but honestly, I may have completely shut-down and been lost if he didn't take the time to start in 2011 right after unlocking of 2010. It took a few years to start getting out, where I was already starting to unlock because I was manually unlocked by them, just like Donald in 2010.

I was depressed and honestly had some stranger experiences than just what happened in the cloning bases and around. I was subconsciously deciding to "remember" that I was already unlocked and went crazy and remembered all this shit, or just feel alone and forget and honestly probably die.

In the three years that it all started coming out, I was struck and shocked by the truth that was pouring out of my memories. Yet I wouldn't have been able to decide for myself until I saw Donald.

He represented everything I vowed I would remain as a child when this all started. No matter what he's been through, he remained himself and as a result I slowly came back over the last year or so.

I'm not playing, this shit is crazy, and Donald is literally the man. Ego boost unnecessary, but thank you Donald. He's changing the world.

See it?! It's amazing.

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Sasha Edwards
30 November 2015 ·



Donald Marshall’s Dilemma with “Mark 2” Sleep Driven REM Clones
The problem I am having is with Mark 2 REM driven clones. “Mark 2” is a rapid eye
movement (REM) driven clone. In other words, Mark 2 clones are sleep driven clones. REM
sleep is the fifth stage of sleep (Sleepdex 2015). The first REM cycle usually happens 90
minutes to 110 minutes after we fall asleep (Sleepdex 2015). What that means is: currently,
this is the Illuminati’s main form of communication. They do not call people on the phone;
they do not meet at the Bohemian Grove anymore (they only meet there once a year for
traditional purposes). Since they discovered the science of sleep driven cloning, they meet at
the cloning centre WHEN THEY GO TO SLEEP (The cloning centre is a physical location,
located 5 / 6 hours radius from the Robert Pickton Farm (Port Coquitlam, British Columbia,
Canada) at a nature reserve).



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Sasha Edwards

3 December 2015 ·





Consciousness Transfer Happens When the Original Reaches REM Sleep

The Illuminati can transfer the consciousness of an original once the person reaches REM sleep if there is a duplicate clone of the original at the cloning centre, once the person goes to sleep (90 minutes to 110 minutes after falling asleep). Therefore, what happens is that the consciousness of the original is transferred to the duplicated clone body (the duplicated clone

body is grown within 5 months by regenerative technology) once the original reaches REM sleep. The original’s consciousness is transferred from the original’s body; -although the original’s body is still in their bed, asleep at home; -to a duplicated REM driven clone body at the cloning centre, and the original ‘wakes up’ as a cloned version of himself / herself at the

cloning centre. It is a great marvel of science and one man’s greatest achievements, but it is kept hidden and used for sinister purposes.



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