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Post by celine on Aug 22, 2015 6:18:13 GMT -5
Jordan Frenzy Haines 18 August 2015 www.facebook.com/…/INSIDE%20THE%20ILLUMINATI%20MIND…Donald J. Potts uploaded a file in the group: The Awakening -Chilli's Reality. INSIDE THE ILLUMINATI MIND by THE RUINER (An Illuminati Insider)(Completed 081615) This is one of the best documents you will ever read, bar none. Many TRUTHS revealed for the first time. Learn about the Matrix that the Draco created here on earth. See how it all works, and what is their END GAME. We are in the last act before the final curtain call. Please download, disseminate, and share this far and wide. Length: 124 pages Size: 761 KB Type: Adobe Acrobat .pdf INSIDE THE ILLUMINATI MIND by THE RUINER (An Illuminati Insider)(Completed 081615).pdf · version 1 Portable Document FormatDownloadPreview Donald Marshall... I still gotta read all this. Jordan Frenzy Haines ....I read it all a few weeks ago in the forum it was posted but not sure if I've read everything in this PDF format.. Not sure if 124 pages is all the posts I read or more.. You would probably think the Voyagers books are disinformation but I perceive they're not, you would probably like them though if you perceive them to be legit.. Some connecting info between ruiners blog and Voyagers books too along with allot of other information.. Laurence thinks Voyagers are disinformation though... It's funny because some people on my friends list don't believe you, some like Michael Kavanagh speaks allot of truth but he reckons you are lying, some people think the real Donald was killed and replaced in 2012 too.. Sasha Edwards 124 pages, but Thanks Ruiner I like reading your work.
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Post by jesusisking777 on Aug 27, 2015 6:13:27 GMT -5
Time to rise up, and act now...
We the people can do things without gov't we are not slaves to them.. or puppets. We got a brain to think and a mouth to talk..use it.
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Post by zatjat on Aug 31, 2015 19:43:33 GMT -5
I dont know how long this has been going on, but its something that might prove to be useful.
Kryon was channelled in 1987 at the harmonic convergence, some big event for the new agers, anyways heres a few questions from the faq.
"Question: Dear Kryon, with the recent news of the cloned human baby, I am curious as to your views on "Human cloning.” Is this meant to be; does it matter how the human physical body is created, or is man overstepping ethical and spiritual boundaries."
Answer: "We have given many messages about this. It is the Human who sets the spiritual parameters of science, not God. Do you understand that yesterday's spiritual taboos are today's normality? So where did that leave God? Did God change, or did the Human?
The truth is this. Nature clones a Human over a thousand times a day [identical twins], so the process is normal biology. You are not creating life when you clone scientifically. You are simply manipulating what is there to emulate what nature does daily. There is no spiritual taboo here, but rather there is a very high integrity question. This is all about children, and the reasons for creating them in a designed fashion. Is there integrity in this, or is it convenience? Where do you draw the line?
Does the husband who lost his wife, clone a female child to bring her back? This is NOT fantasy, and may actually happen. Can you imagine the relationship between them? Do the parents who lost a child, try to replace him? Do they think that God will also honor the full karmic imprint of a cloned child compared to the one they lost? The answer is no.
Humans will be cloned, and there will come a time when the line blurs between cloning and simply manipulating the genealogy of those ready to be born. In all those cases, there are spiritual consequences, but not judgment. The consequences are ones which simply are the results of your free choice. The karmic attributes of a clone will be just as individualistic as any other Human. They will have the karma of "a clone." For anyone to think otherwise makes us wonder if they think we [Spirit] are in the closet regarding these things?
Spirit knows exactly what is happening. Your free choice regarding the manipulation of the seeds of life is respected since it is free choice. But there is nothing your science will ever be able to do that will alter the spiritual imprint of the portions of DNA which are interdimensional.
There are many on the other side of the veil right now, ready to come in as clones if that is what you are going to produce. They will be just as much of an individual "angel" as any of you. All you will be doing it to predispose their biological make up… a very small portion of the whole of who you are."
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Post by zatjat on Aug 31, 2015 19:48:43 GMT -5
QUESTION: "Dear Kryon: Is the earth hollow and do beings that are evolved live there?" — Jean
ANSWER: "As you think of the planet, it is not hollow. Your reality shows well-known characteristics that have been mapped geologically for decades. Your spacecraft have added information, and it is all valid. The planet is solid.
What is confusing it that when you get beyond 4D, everything in physics changes including what you call “your reality.” In an interdimensional way, the earth contains a “singular” life force, entities that help you and the planet, and even places where YOU come and go on the way through the veil! So… I ask you, is it hollow? You might say it is if you are speaking in an interdimensional way. Think of this: Where do you think I “am?” I am part of the support group of the planet. Therefore I am “in” the earth.
There has been information given where people can “see” the coming and going of entities into and out of the earth. In addition, there has been information that at some time in the future, they will actually come forth from the inside of the earth. ALL of this is out of 4D. It always was, but that does not change the “reality” of it. Indeed there is much coming and going, and indeed there will come a time when the support group comes forth. But these are things that all fit into what I have already told you about the changing energy of the Earth.
One of the most difficult things in these changing times for you is to know the difference between your old 4D reality and the new realities of the interdimensional aspects of YOU. Your science has now admitted the interdimensionality of matter, and it no longer means that you are suffering from a brain disorder when you claim to “see” some things out of 4D. There are many who “see” the coming and going at a level that is very convincing to them that the Earth must be hollow. They are only claiming interdimensional sight. Therefore celebrate the fact that the earth is what it needs to be in every dimension to bring about support to your lives."
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Post by zatjat on Aug 31, 2015 19:59:53 GMT -5
QUESTION (4) Dear Kryon: I've read quite a bit on the "hollow earth theory" and it's a matter of record, based on what Admiral Byrd found on one of his explorations many years ago. In a recent book, Mt. Shasta and surrounding areas were named as exits and openings for a civilization that calls that region home. I checked on the Web, and there's a person who's telling of the existence of these people, who are supposed to be survivors of Lemuria, and what their relationship to us is. One of the things that was brought out was that they're waiting for the 12:12, the same time that's referred to by Kryon. Does Kryon have any info on this possibility?
ANSWER This information is answered completely within some of the newest channellings. I've instructed my partner to place the second channelling from Mt. Shasta, which was given June 2004, into publication (on the Website) within two months of this question-and-answer series. In that channelling, we describe these Lemurians and what their society used to be like, and what happened that allowed them to move dimensionally into your future.
There is no hollow earth containing Human creatures as you know them. There are, however, interdimensional beings who have been waiting to come to the surface if the planet ever got to the place where they could. These are the Lemurians. The time would be now, and they are actually here. They're not waiting for 2012, which is the "book end" of the Venus Transit (see the first Mt. Shasta channelling on the Website, from June 2004).
There's a great deal to understand here, and some of it will seem esoteric and beyond the scope of the what would normally be seen as the "practical Kryon message." However, it's no different from your belief in guides and angels, and falls within much the same category... those who have been waiting to help you.
(From Lee): There are now satellites that continuously "see" the topography of the earth over and over. They've been in place for years. Many are dedicated to the mapping of the planet, gravitational anomalies, geophysical attributes, and so on. Environmentalists are especially interested in the poles due to the gradual warming of the planet. If there were an exit and opening that has been described, which is in 4D, you'd have to understand that it would have been seen by now, over and over. And if you're one of those who believe that it has been seen but is being kept secret, then you're not yet awakened to what real Human nature is like. No more secrets like this can be kept when the world is connected in the way it is via the Internet. There's always someone who will "spill the beans." It's really easy to believe in conspiracies. The truth will be much stranger, and harder to accept
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Post by zatjat on Aug 31, 2015 20:04:54 GMT -5
STION: Dear Kryon: Would you please explain more about the 5th Dimension?
ANSWER: The subject of interdimensionality is one of the most covered by the Kryon messages than any other subject. So the answers have been given again and again. However, to honor you in the ‘now,' I again say:
There is no such thing as the 5th dimension. When you broach moving from the 4 your are in (height, depth, width, and time), then you enter all the others at the same time. In addition, you throw away linearity (counting – one step after another – the clock) so you can't call anything "number 5."
But your reality is that you are indeed moving to the "next dimension," even though you perceive it singularly. Think bigger than that. When you step out of the reality you are in, you step into something far bigger than the "next box called 5." Instead, it is the whole package!
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Post by zatjat on Aug 31, 2015 20:06:55 GMT -5
QUESTION: Dear Kryon: I understand that the Pleiadians had something to do with our DNA and adding a star seed. I also connect them to the "giants" of biblical lore who mated with men/women. You say we needed them for our development, and I'm asking why. What type of ancestral source are they? Are they still working with us?
ANSWER: Yes on all accounts. The Pleiadians, a group from the Seven Sisters star system, were needed to alter your DNA, which was done fairly recently (100,000 years ago). You were at that point where you were beginning to develop many kinds of Humans, just as most of the mammals of Earth have done.
The first thing they did was to stop the development of all the branches of Humans but one… the kind you have now. The second thing they did was to alter the genetic code of the Humans who would be the core race. This alteration would create a genetic “imprint of God” in each of you, since they carried that too.
Their system is NOT “In lesson” as your Earth is, and they live life much differently than you do. Your Earth existence is about free choice, and where you will take the energy of Gaia. You have a mission here in this part of the galaxy, and it’s very different from theirs. They knew what to do for you, since they are of divine origin and this is part of their existence and purpose. This is difficult to explain to you, since you see everything with a Human perception. The Pleiadians are not like you, for you live in a condition of old and new energy, on a very young stage. They have actually gone through their own tests, and are now serving the Universe in other ways… including the seeding of other “Earths” to come.
However, they are very much like you in many ways. When you finally meet them, and you will, don’t be surprised if they look very much like you. And yes… they are still interested in what happens here on your planet; but they are not interested in intervening with your path. They approach you with a truly loving spirit.
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Post by zatjat on Aug 31, 2015 20:09:27 GMT -5
(1) QUESTION: Dear Kryon: What is the function of the current pope? What role did he play in the end of communism, and why is he still alive? To me, he seems to be part of the old energy: a reactionary and a chauvinist.
ANSWER: Dear one, this pope is the last of a lineage of old-energy spiritual leaders. Although he indeed carries this old mantle, which includes an apparent chauvinistic attitude of his age and culture, he is also a bridge to what is to come, which began to really show itself after the end of communism. First, he is the only pope to come to an understanding of the fact that what he represents [his church] is changing drastically. This brought him to a place where he not only apologized to the peoples of earth for the Spanish Inquisition, but also asked for forgiveness for what took place regarding the Vatican and its position during the Holocaust. No pope has ever done these things. It opens the door to the fact that the church is fallible, and that is a large step for any pope. He's also aware that he's the last one of his kind, and he's holding on to this as long as he can.
He won't be with you much longer, but things are not ready just yet for the new one who is coming. The timing will be within the next four years (or sooner if things move quickly), and it will be obvious why. The new pope will eventually represent a large change in the Catholic Church, and will create much upheaval within the ranks. The church must come to grips with a real changing consciousness on the planet, and prune itself of old energy practices, as well as an image that, increasingly, is not anything the new generation is interested in.
Honor this man. He has walked a tightrope of tradition versus new thinking. He's told you that there is no such thing as heaven or hell, yet he did it in a way that would not go against hundreds of years of church doctrine that says the opposite. He asked forgiveness of Galileo's family 300 years after the fact, yet did it in a way that didn't make the other popes appear to be wrong. This truly is a man who "knew" he was the last of the old popes, and he's tried to bring the church's energy to a place where it would be more prepared for what was coming. He didn't tackle the hardest problems, which are now on his doorstep. He knows better. It will be taken care of by the next pope, a younger one whom history may call "the evil pope." Not "evil" in the sense of being ungodly, but evil in the sense that he will go against the grain of tradition and history. He will make waves, just like the prophet they worship did. Jesus the Jew was known by the Essenes as the "wicked priest." It was because he went against all Jewish tradition, and empowered those around him.
Think about it.
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Post by zatjat on Aug 31, 2015 20:18:15 GMT -5
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Post by zatjat on Aug 31, 2015 20:20:52 GMT -5
Dear Kryon: Representing only 3 percent of the population, how do we account for Jews appearing in disproportionately large number in the professions such as medicine, law, and accounting, and excelling in the areas of classical music?
My own sense is that some souls who come into Jewish families are dedicated to high levels of individual contribution to the culture. They bring in an essence of harmony and peace, and find expression for this essence in the professions, honoring the gift of a natural intelligence.
ANSWER This has been answered before, but I will again say these things to you. When you have a pure karmic group, then they incarnate over and over into the same group until it's time to leave that group. When they leave, they don't come back. This is the "purity" of the karma. It carries with it both challenge and reward. The challenge is that it's "seen" by others on Earth as a group that carries the core, and if the group is eliminated, then the conqueror will carry the core. You might think this is ridiculous until you look at their history.
The good news is that any group like this (and it's the only one) has individuals who really "know how things work" on the planet. They keep coming back in the same situations, and it shows. This is why they're so good at what they do, and are the earth's shopkeepers, artists, and musicians. Again, you can look around you and see this all over the planet. It's not a coincidence, and I've given you the spiritual reasons long ago. You may have your own ideas, but truth is stranger than anything you can conceive, for it goes right back to the core of the Akashic Record, and what happens to entities who incarnate so often within the same family structures.
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Post by zatjat on Aug 31, 2015 20:22:01 GMT -5
Dear Kryon: I am an Orthodox Jew living in Jerusalem. I have been following your channellings for several years now, having read many of the Kryon books, online channellings, and Q&A archives via the website. I have a deep drive to uncover basic truths of reality, physical as well as spiritual. This is one of the reasons I have also studied Jewish philosophy and Kabalah.
I can say that what attracted me to your teaching at first continues to attract me today; and that is the feeling I get of it being Truth, both in a physical (scientific) sense, but even more so in a spiritual and ethical sense.
That having been said, I have some points of significant disagreement, at least ostensibly, and I would very much like to be enlightened about them. Not that they would negate the “99% plus” that I agree with; but still they are bothersome and some have ramifications in whether I should take action or remain inactive.
A frequent theme mentioned in your channellings as well as in the Q&A is the irrelevancy of existing prophecies. In one Q&A you ask (rhetorically) if ANY existing prophecy describes what we are seeing today (implying that none does), and you go on to say that all existing prophecies are irrelevant now that the energy has shifted, etc.
My question is: what about the Old Testament prophets like Isaiah and Ezekiel who in very many chapters, alongside prophecies of doom to Evil forces (Edom, Gog, etc.), also prophesize about "Wolves grazing with Lambs", "Knowledge of God covering all as water covers the ocean", "Death tears being a thing of the past", "Swords converted to plowshares," etc. (All of this is loosely translated from my memory of the Hebrew).
Another issue arises in the context of “Question 1” (I emailed this question to Lee a few years ago, but the answer I received wasn't very satisfactory. Perhaps you can satisfy me this time...). The question is: “What is the role of the Jews in the enlightenment of the the World?” Although in your teachings you refer many times to the fact that the Jews are special and intrinsically different, up till now (to the best of my knowledge) you haven't given them any special role as a group or as collection of individuals. On the other hand, prophecies of Isaiah and Ezekiel, as well as compilations based on them such as RAMHAL's, give a major role to the Jews as a whole and to their leader (the Messiah, King David, Scion of Yishay) or leaders (the Seven Shepherds) as the factor of divinely inspired leadership, continuing enlightenment, priests and etc.
ANSWER: From LEE: Thank you for this fine question. First, Kryon has said that all past prophesy regarding the specific path of Humanity is moot. This would be in the form of the quatrains of Nostradamus and the specific timeline of the New Testament Book of Revelations. There is no prophesy existing that told of our 9-11 event, or the demise of certain dictators, etc. This is the kind of prophesy that is contained in Nostradamus and Revelation. There is an overall prophesy, however, of the goal of Earth. This overall prophesy exists in both Jewish and Christian scripture, and also in many of the eastern philosophies. So there is a difference between a “timeline prophesy” and the kind of prophesy that consists of “wise words of what is possible on the Earth.” You might even say that the Sermon on the Mount (The Beatitudes) also falls into the same kind of encouraging energy that is found in Isaiah and Ezekiel. It's all from God, and the messages are the same.
The answer as to why the Jews are here? What role do they play? This was answered in the three channellings given in Jerusalem on October 27, 28 and 29, 2005. At this writing, they may not all be on the website, but the plan is for them ALL to be posted there. The answer? The Jews are now commissioned with the task of bringing about the impossible: Peace in their land. Now you can understand why Kryon has said, "As go the Jews, go Earth." The challenge in front of them is to create a new paradigm of coexistence within a very complex situation. When this can be agreed upon, the core reason for hating the West will be disengaged. Hate is easily perpetuated when it is fueled, but it stagnates when the reasons are removed. You might say that the entire fate of the Earth is in the hands of the Jews.
Now… perhaps the Old Testament description of why the Jews are here begins to make more sense? They are not alone! But they must muster the strength and the wisdom to get out of the role they have played for centuries, and begin to put on their "hero" hats. Kryon even gave them a political prophesy. But I'm betting you were there to hear it, huh?
Blessings to all of you in Israel!
LEE CARROLL
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Post by Guest on Sept 2, 2015 1:32:15 GMT -5
..krayon, your words are inspired words of demons. God strictly forbids "CHANELLING." To keep it real simple - you are channeling demonic entities (and if you don't change your course, there is an eventuality as promised by God, A Permanent Cutting-Off Of Your Soul). So, in Jesus Christ's name, I rebuke you.
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Post by celine on Sept 2, 2015 15:10:54 GMT -5
Don says that the information is just coming from reanimated chipheads, many of whom have compromised intentions.
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Post by celine on Sept 6, 2015 18:50:27 GMT -5
Anne-Marie Wilson Tait One more before I go night-night for a while Karin JM McBeth... Awesome Anne-Marie Wilson Tait... I put it on my own wall yesterday.... I'd say of the "99%" maybe one or two percent are even close to being awake and aware. I've been a pacifist all my life, but right around March of this year, I picked up my sword. I'd rather die fighting for the truth than live comfortably in a cage of illusion and placation. Karin JM McBeth... I read a while back that the figure is 2%, but lately I feel a "quickening" for lack of a better word, and notice more and more people coming around ... the word is on the streets, many, many people talking about Don and his info. I asked a friend this question a few years back "have you noticed that the stupid people are getting stupider?" and it went from there. smile emoticon Anne-Marie Wilson Tait.... My husband was one of the scoffers for the longest time... then I started showing him (again, right around March), and he's finally listening. It was Donnie's posts that brought him around. For "some reason" he trusts what Don has to say, no matter how outlandish it sounds at first. We've both been keenly aware of the symbolism in everything lately... from music to tv to movies to commercials, even sports and mainstream news. It's everywhere... This world is wholly infected, and the only cure is to WAKE UP and TALK ABOUT IT. ... well, it's a start anyway. The TRUTH really will set us free. We have free will after all, don't we? Karin JM McBeth ...Yes we do, given to us by the Creator .. I'm not religious in the least, but I believe in the Creator, I also believe that the Creator has Don's back, and mine and yours ... anyone that is doing what they can to ensure that the human species remains .. the Creator and only the Creator (I'd say he or she, but who knows, I like to think "she" but, lol what can I say to that), can create life ... not cloners, that's perverse and disgusting. Sounding like a holy roller .. sorry, I'm truly not, just vehemently believe than there is much bigger than us and "them" ... my instincts tell me that Don speaks truth and I trust my instincts. Anne-Marie Wilson Tait I'm not religious either. But I am intensely spiritual. There really is a difference. Anne-Marie Wilson Tait's photo. Karin JM McBeth Yes ... there really is.
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Post by celine on Sept 6, 2015 19:12:24 GMT -5
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